Ashley 14:09
Yeah. Now, one of the things you mentioned is you said you have been getting a lot of hate. How do you deal with the online haters?

Alex 14:16
Not well, I mean, I think I’m growing as fast as I can, in the face of it. It kind of all just happened so quickly. But I think now, you know, my mindset is maturing. So most of the time when I see it, if it’s there I’ll just giggle and be like, oh, you know, I know that person’s definitely not a good place, whatever. Occasionally, though, when something will go viral, and there will be 1000s of people writing the meanest things about me. And when I see it, I get upset for a night or so. And it makes me want to quit social media, but I just put the phone down. I read a book, say some prayers. Go to bed. Usually I wake up and I’m like, I can do this. I got this. I think the key is just working on you know how you think about it and also creating time in between you and looking at what’s on here, like just, put it down.

Ashley 15:05
So what would you say to the person that’s afraid to start their podcast? For that reason

Alex 15:11
I would say to them, don’t think about the people who are going to hate you. Think about even if it’s just one person in the world whose life you’re going to change for the better. Not only obviously, it’s so amazing for that person that you did that for them. But you are going to feel better for that, too. There’s definitely a part of the human soul that we just feel better if we think we are helping people. I think a lot of people don’t realize that because they’ve been in the same nine to five their whole life where they’re not necessarily helping people. Maybe they’re chasing down taxpayers or something that doesn’t feel, like, great to them. But once you get that first taste of it, if someone emails you and says, Hey, your podcast changed my life, print that out, put it on the wall, put it on your laptop, and just go with that.

Ashley 15:53
I think that’s, I think that’s beautiful. Because just the fact that you can raise your voice with just a microphone, that you can reach people and actually help them. It’s such a good time to start a podcast.

Alex 16:04
Oh, definitely. And it’s yeah, it’s amazing. I mean, there’s a lot of bad things, right, that happen with technology and social media, but I think there’s a lot of good things too. So you really have to work on just thinking about that side of it.

Ashley 16:17
I like that. So where can people find you online?

Alex 16:20
Oh, God, I’m everywhere. Pretty much just look my name up on any social media app. My last name is pretty unique. So I just pop up Alex Fasulo. I’m sure you guys will have it, if you want me to spell it. Otherwise, I’m sure you’ll have it.

Ashley 16:34
I’ll put it in there.

Alex 16:35
Okay, all right. Yeah. Um, yeah, if you just look up Alex Fasulo on any social media site, I will pop up. My podcast is The Freelance Fairytales on all major podcasting sites.

Ashley 16:48
And right here on

Alex 16:50
Right here on Yeah. And then my website again, Pretty much just Google my name and ignore all the Reddit threads saying I’m a liar.

Ashley 16:58
I didn’t actually ask you this. But are there any projects that you’re working on you want to tell people about? I know you said you can’t mention the book. But

Alex 17:05
I know I, unfortunately, can’t give any more away about that. I mean, I’m definitely working on growing my podcast. So if you don’t listen, please come by leaving five star reviews. It is greatly greatly appreciated. Let’s see what else. I’m working, always on so many things. But I just can’t say until they go live, unfortunately. So follow me on social media. I post constantly like a crazy person. And I post a lot of free resources and news tips and everything to help you with your freelancing journey.

Ashley 17:34
Well, if someone was wanting to be a freelancer, where’s the first product you would direct them to?

Alex 17:39
I would say go to my website,, because it links to my free Facebook group, which is really incredible for people. It links to my online courses, links to my ebook, and my podcast. So for those things, I think if you consume everything in them, you will be a master freelancer.

Ashley 17:56
I love it. I absolutely love it. Well, I really appreciate the time that you’ve spent with me today. Is there anything that I didn’t ask that you wish I had?

Alex 18:03
No. This was great.

Ashley 18:06
I mean, yeah, I feel like there’s something I should have asked. But I’m, I’m not thinking of it. But I am kind of curious, though, because Fiverr is gonna keep coming up. Right? What do you think about Fiverr these days?

Alex 18:19
I have to give you the on camera answer, because off camera’s spicier. Um, you know, I see them in a very unemotional way, right? Like they’ve captured the largest share of the freelancing market. So it’s still to me the best place to get on, get experience, scale a business, do all of it. It’s still the best. They don’t pay me. We do not have a partnership at all. Me and them are not buddy-buddy. So I share that out of the goodness of my heart, meaning I actually believe it is still the best place to get started on. Would I be upset if some other site unseeded it? Not at all, because I don’t want to, I mean, they’re getting more pay to play which I hate. They take a percentage of the tips you get. They’re greedy. You know? They are a corporation. And I’m not shy that I don’t love them. So.

Ashley 19:10
I honestly didn’t know that they take a portion of the tips.

Alex 19:13
Yeah. Oh, yeah, they take money anywhere they can get their little fingers into and I don’t love that, but it is what it is. You have to be practical about it. And that’s why I also encourage people after a few years, get off of there and open your own agency. You know, don’t, don’t pay into them forever.

Ashley 19:29
When did you start your agency?

Alex 19:32
Officially this year, funnily enough, but I’ve been taking on private clients for the whole time. But this year was the year I started to actually hire help, hire writers, virtual assistants, my best friend who manages it, LLC it, you know, take it seriously. Finally this year, and you might ask why? Why did you wait that long? And it’s honestly because I did not have the time to start it until this year. Like I don’t know how to communicate how busy I have been on Fiverr the last six years. Like I never took a day off. Because it’s hard to walk away from business like flying and flying in the door. But I’m not advocating anybody do anything irresponsible like that. I’m not promoting hustle culture, please take care of yourselves. Hire virtual assistants. Getting help is okay.

Ashley 20:20
Well, you had speaking of hiring virtual assistants, you posted a TikTok, I think it was TikTok, a couple days ago that said, you know that there are this many days left in the year and that if you were to hire someone every single day for the next, what was it 50 days that you can be financially free by next year? Will you speak a little bit about that?

Alex 20:36
Yeah, so what I was saying is that if you put only one hour in every day, so 50 hours between now and 2022, and follow all of the trillions of things I have on my TikTok, you could become financially free – meaning you no longer have to worry about finances and in a capacity or paying your bills. So for a lot of people that might be making 5k a month or so to pay off their bills or current debt, interest, everything. And there’s so many ways you can go about doing that. But one of them would be getting on Fiverr, setting it up. Opening services. I just had a girl on my podcast who’s about to make over 100k her first year freelancing, it’s just nuts the money that is in it. But yeah, if you spend, I think 50 hours, every day, you know, just putting more and more time into making sure your business is perfect. Studying the competition, getting the pricing, right branding, right. And then hiring an agency manager and virtual assistants, it could technically run itself by January. But then when I say that people are like, “What are you talking about?” I’m like, it’s actually not easy, but it’s simple. That’s what I always say, it’s not going to be easy, but it’s actually simple.

Ashley 21:43
And then the sad thing is that only like 1% of the people that are listening to this are even going to do it. So I think that’s probably why you get a lot of the lie culture saying, “Oh, yeah, she’s a liar.” Well, have you tried it?

Alex 21:54
That’s exactly it, and I understand it can sound overwhelming in theory, but I mean, that’s life. Like, you’ve got to just push past that sometimes. It’s worth it. Just, you know, just put the work in, I promise.

Ashley 22:08
Now, I have to ask you this. When you quit your job, what was it six years ago now from that lofty PR job in 2015? Did you think that this would be how your life would unfold?

Alex 22:20
Not for a single second. And I know people today when they’re like, “Oh, that’s the Fiverr girl, she makes all this money, she must be all this type of way.” I’m like you guys, I quit that job. And I thought I was going to be a starving artist, you know, an author trying to get one book in my lifetime in a store. I was so ready to make 20k a year, and I’m not trying to sound insensitive. If people are listening from around the world, that might be a lot of money to them. I’m just saying from New York City standards, it was not a lot of money. So I was all ready to eat ramen, and sit in cafes to use the WiFi, and I didn’t care because I just did not want to be in an office. That’s all I knew. And I was like, You know what, even if I make no money, I’m happy. I’m writing. I’m my own boss. Life is good. And I never, ever in a million years thought it would be where it has come to. I honestly still wake up and can’t believe it. Like I honestly still wake up and I’m like, What the eff?

Ashley 23:20
And yeah, plus you never have the same day twice it sounds like.

Alex 23:26
Oh my gosh, no, no, you know, but it’s like, I can tell with all like the emails, I’m getting stuff like this is still only just the beginning with all of it. And it’s all because I decided to check out a site where you can make $5 at the time. And a lot of people laughed at me for that.

Ashley 23:41
I can understand that. Because I mean, $5 doesn’t sound like much, but now keep putting in the work, and next thing you know, it becomes a lot more than $5.

Alex 23:49
Absolutely. And that that was my – I didn’t have any, like, ego with it. I was like, Okay, you can go ahead and laugh about it. But it bought me this sandwich. So I’m okay with it. I don’t have any pride that I need to be any other kind of way, then the irony is, you know, three years later, all of a sudden, all this money is coming. And I’m just like, life is so funny. So that’s why I encourage people to take risks because you actually have no idea.

Ashley 24:15
That’s true. And that’s why you should start a podcast.

Alex 24:18
Start a podcast. Like exactly, I mean, you don’t know who’s listening. Um, you’ve no idea who’s listening. You might get a book deal. Someone might invite you to be on a TV show. You might meet your husband. You might, you know. You have no idea who is listening. You have no idea when you bring a guest on – you might hit it off. I’ve hit it off with some of my podcast guests so well I’m actually working on two different business ideas with them like running a business with these people. I’ll take it. That works.

Ashley 24:44
Well. I think I really am wrapped now. I think I’ve answered, er I mean I’ve asked every question I wanted to ask but if there’s anything else that you can think of that you want to share, I’d love to hear it.

Alex 24:55
No, I mean anyone listening just don’t be afraid. Just open, start the podcast, get the mic, share your thoughts. There’s one person in the world it’s gonna help, and that’s what this is all about. Right?

Ashley 25:09
Yeah. And start your business.

Alex 25:11
Yes, like that’s it. Just do it. Just do it.

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By MD Abdullah

Abdullah is a former educator, lifelong money nerd, and a Plutus Award-winning freelance writer who specializes in the scientific research behind irrational money behaviors. Her background in education allows her to make complex financial topics relatable and easily understood by the layperson. She is the author of four books, including End Financial Stress Now and The Five Years Before You Retire.

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